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Exposing "I Take the Vow"
I have researched the Occult for about 25 years under all its different names, New Age Movement, New Thought, New Gospel, New Spirituality, Theosophy etc…and I feel that this is an important development.
There is a new movement just underway in its infancy called “I Take the Vow”, created by the Spiritual leader Deepak Chopra. At the time I wrote this article almost 13,000 people had taken the vow. http://itakethevow.com
It is a vow of nonviolence. How it is being presented is very beautiful, loving and peaceful. Who does not want a peaceful world? The problem lies in what they mean by peace and how they really plan to accomplish it. I take the vow website will not and does not tell you the whole story. You have to find out what the founders truly believe to get the whole story. You can find it in many writings of Deepak Chopra who is a New Age occultist, and those of his peers. They are networked together now through many various organizations. The peace they proclaim can only be achieved once there are no more believers in the God of Abraham, a God that is separate from ourselves. This is clearly stated by Barbara Marx Hubbard who holds the same beliefs and is also in the same organizations with Deepak Chopra and other New Age Occult leaders. I will give more details regarding that later. They are constantly stating that Religion is the primary cause of all the major wars on this planet. Therefore it must be done away with. It is old and out-dated and they say evil. Everyone that believes in the God of Abraham, and Jesus Christ as a personal Savior and do not accept that they are “god” will hold back the entire planet’s evolution. Therefore those persons have to join with them or be eliminated. We have to look into what they mean by non-violence. Nothing is always what it appears on the surface with the New Age/Occult.
When I saw this new site www.itakethevow.com in December my mind was flooded with all the research I have done on initiations. At face value this may appear sweet or simple, but don’t be fooled. It goes much deeper than what it appears. Remember Lucifer can appear as an Angel of Light.
Deepak Chopra
Posted November 7, 2008 | 10:58 PM (EST) on The Huffington Post
“It all began November 7, 2008 when he took the vow personally.
Dear Friends,
On November 7, 2008, at 9:45am ,
I, Deepak Chopra, took a vow of non-violence in my thoughts, in my speech and in my actions. I, then, also had an opportunity to ask the almost 500 people attending the plenary session for the Alliance for a New Humanity in Barcelona if they would join me in this commitment.
I first asked them to close their eyes, put their awareness in their hearts and ask themselves honestly and seriously if they were willing to take a vow.
I told them that a vow is a sacred commitment from which there is no going back. It is like a child that is born, who cannot return to the womb.
I told them if they were ready to take this vow, they should stand up.
People stood up, one by one at first, then in groups of twos and threes, and finally in tidal waves, until more than 450 people had stood up and taken the vow.
Following this, everybody agreed to have at least two people in their lives take the vow. The two in turn, would have two others join them in taking the vow. Our immediate goal now is to get 100 Million people across the world to take this vow. In the meantime, we will be setting up ways to measure and support the dramatic effects this tidal wave of shift in consciousness is going to create.
Are you seriously committed to bringing about a world of peace, harmony, laughter and love by taking this vow and getting two people to join you?
If you are ready, please post a blog on Intent.com entitled: I take the vow.
Let us know that you have passed on the vow to two friends. And, if
you wish tell us your thoughts in the post, we would love to hear them.
Love,
Deepak Chopra
President and Founder of the Alliance For A New Humanity”
Please note what he said. “I told them that a vow is a sacred commitment from which there is no going back. It is like a child that is born, who cannot return to the womb.” That is a strong statement. He has also called for missionary work! His goal is 100 million to take the vow. There is a reason for that number and I will go into that later.
The web site www.itakethevow.com was created around the beginning of December 2008. Within three weeks they had over 3000 persons who had pledged this vow. Now it is skyrocketing due to Deepak Chopra’s book tour. Where he is promoting his new novel called Jesus: A Story of Enlightenment and the “I take the vow” website.
This is an excerpt of the book I have found online. I can not verify the accuracy of this quote yet. I have ordered this book and will have my own quotes and opinions in later articles.
In the book: Jesus' mysterious teacher tells him:
"Only someone who can see the demons as part of God is free. Good and evil dissolve. The veil drops away, and all you see is divine light - inside, outside, everywhere...Your soul is the world's soul. In your resurrection will be the resurrection of the world."
Demons are part of God! Good and evil don’t exist? You and the world’s souls are one? So you are one with the World! Through you the world is resurrected? Not through Jesus Christ but you? Because you are “Christ’.
The book describes a very different Jesus than the traditional Christians know. He is teaching occult ideas. Every review I have seen says clearly that this is a “new perspective” or idea of Jesus being taught not the traditional Jesus. It is not new, it is ancient. It is the teachings of the Occult that have been passed down through the ages. It is just being repackaged.
Deepak Chopra is a New Age/ New Spirituality/ Occult leader. He is called by the media and interviewers a Spiritual leader. Deepak Chopra was on the Ellen DeGeneres show on Tuesday January 6, 2009. He was promoting the “I take a vow” website and his new book on Jesus. It is a novel that fills in Jesus’ life during the missing years. Filling them with occult doctrines Jesus learned from Masters etc... The www.itakethevow.com numbers of people joining is growing fast. It started about the beginning of December. There were just over 3000 within 3 weeks of that date, then on 12/13/08 it hit 5253, after I saw the show I checked the number 9059 and within 24 hours it increase almost 2000 persons. It appears that going on Ellen was quite successful. That is its biggest jump during one day I have seen. Ellen put the link to www.itakethevow.com on her website and told everyone to check it out. So the numbers are increasing by the minute. This is a stealthy way of preparing the world to take initiations. It is preparatory work for what is to come. When we have to accept or reject the mark of the beast. We are now more and more each day having to choose what side we are on; there is really no middle ground left anymore.
Here is the vow that he asks you to take:
VOW
First, close your eyes and put your awareness in your heart. You can easily focus on someone you love, and feel that love building in your heart, when you feel full of love, ask your self honestly and seriously if you are willing to commit to a vow of nonviolence, in your speech, your thoughts and your actions.
A vow is a sacred commitment from which there is no going back. It is like a child that is born, who cannot return to the womb. By committing to the vow, you also agree to have at least two people in their lives take the vow.
Are you seriously committed to bringing about a world of peace, harmony, laughter and love by taking this vow and getting two people to join you?
If you are ready, please click below to enter your email to be counted as a part of our first 100 million people.
Take the vow now.
(Then you enter your email address and the send you an email back that you forward on to two people.)
Note the statement that a vow is a Sacred Commitment from which there is no going back!
Quote from Deepak Chopra:
On November 7, 2008, at 9:45 am, the 500 people attending the Alliance for a New Humanity Human Forum in Barcelona took a vow for non violence in their thoughts, speech and actions. Each person decided to ask other people in their lives to join them in taking the vow. The goal then became to create a global movement, which would mobilize 100 million people to make the same commitment. We, at the Alliance for a New Humanity believe that if a critical mass of people commit to this vow, the world would be transformed. If you are seriously committed to peace, join us in this global movement and take the vow.
Love,
Deepak Chopra
President and Founder of the Alliance For A New Humanity
What does he mean by the world being transformed? And what does he mean by reaching Critical Mass?
This will help explain what Deepak Chopra is talking about:
The New-Age spiritualists talk about the Hundredth monkey theory.
The Following is from the website: http://pure-research.net/healing/light/monkey.html
The Japanese monkey, Macaca fuscata, had been observed in the wild for a period of over 30 years. In 1952, on the Island of Koshima, scientists were providing monkeys with sweet potatoes dropped in the sand. The monkeys liked the taste of the raw sweet potatoes, but found the dirt unpleasant. An 18 month old female named Imo found she could solve the problem by washing the potatoes in the salty ocean water, improving the taste of the potato. She taught this trick to her mother. Her playmates learned this trick and taught their mothers too. This cultural innovation was gradually picked up by numerous monkeys in the troop and observed by the scientists.
Between 1952 and 1958, all the young monkeys learned to wash the sandy sweet potatoes and make them more palatable. Only the adults who imitated their children learned this cultural improvement. Other adult monkeys kept eating the dirty sweet potatoes. In autumn of 1958, something startling took place. A certain number of Koshima monkeys were already washing their sweet potatoes, the exact number is not known. The hypothetical number given was 99. Then it happened. The hundredth monkey learned to wash the sweet potatoes. The added energy of that hundredth monkey somehow created an ideological breakthrough. Almost everyone in the tribe was washing their potatoes before eating them, but a surprising occurrence was observed by these scientists. The habit of washing the sweet potato had jumped overseas. Colonies of monkeys on other islands and the mainland troop at Takaskiyama began washing their sweet potatoes.
Although the exact number may vary, this Hundredth Monkey Phenomenon means that when only a limited number of individuals knows a 'new way', it remains the conscious property of those individuals. However, when one more individual manifests this new awareness, the field is strengthened, a critical mass is reached, and the awareness becomes the conscious property of all. This new awareness is communicated mind to mind.
From The Hundredth Monkey by Ken Keyes Jr
So in other words if “I Take the Vow” reaches Critical Mass the rest of the worlds humans will follow into the same Enlightenment or Awakening because all the rest will be transformed with them from mind to mind, telepathically. Therefore Awakening and changing the world. But there is a catch. Some are not “evolved” enough and will not join. And as Deepak said on a January MTV interview something to the effect “that it is the collective consciousness that causes bad things to happen, he even said that there are no victims…..”
So that means those that do not choose the “new way” will be in the way, therefore causing negative things to happen. It will be like separating the wheat from the tares but in this case Christians will be considered the tares of this world.
Quotes from questions ask to Deepak Chopra regarding the vow.
“The violence in our society is a projection of the violence in side all of us. We are not the victim, we are the creators of violence. To some extent we all participate in creating the violence in the world. By taking a personal oath of non-violence, and sticking to it, we will collectively manifest a world of peace, harmony, laughter, love and compassion.
It will take a critical mass of people taking this vow, and using it as a reminder in their daily life to achieve this. That's why we are committing to a goal of 100 million of us taking the vow. (The more the better)”
“The time has come where we must collectively participate in the next state of evolution from our violent nature into our wise and peaceful nature or else we will not survive.”
“By stating the vow of nonviolence explicitly and asking those who are close to you to remind you when you are deviating from those principles of nonviolence, accelerates the process of evolution.”
“The vow of non-violence is a vow of peace. It amounts to the same thing. Whatever language one chooses there are bound to be certain pitfalls associated with it. As we know, people have tried to justify war and violence in the name of peace as well. I see the vow of non-violence in terms of the Sanskrit word Ahimsa, which is an active interaction with others and nature on the basis of the spiritual unity which connects us all. So nonviolence is not passive, but active in a nurturing way. Ahimsa describes behavior that respects and supports all who are involved. It assumes a universality the way that the greeting namaste recognizes that the divinity in others is the same as the divinity within us.”
“When we see, feel and know that consciousness that we are all a part of, then becoming a peacemaker comes naturally, and compassion, joyfulness, and friendliness towards others is just an expression of who we are.”
Deepak Chopra
Here are quotes from opening video of Deepak Chopra Alliance for a New Humanity website that has created I take the vow.
Imagine …humanity at peace.
Every mind that is at and peace ….
…adds to the peace of the world.
If enough people share the value peace….
…war can be brought to an end.
A shift in consciousness...
…can transform the world.
Such a shift is already occurring…
….it just needs critical mass.
You could be the turning point.
“You must be the change you want to see in the world” Mahatma Gandhi.
Side note: There is great evidence that Mahatma Gandhi became and initiate under Helena Blavatsky.
Here are quotes from Alliance for a New Humanity website:
Our Intention
“To create an alliance of people based on the awareness of humanity’s interconnectedness. We believe that if enough people share the value of peace, war can be brought to an end. If enough people shift their awareness toward social justice, human rights, and environmental sustainability, then injustice, oppression, and the destruction of the ecosystem can be stopped.
Such a shift is already occurring - now it needs critical mass, which in turn needs organization. The Alliance aims to connect individuals, caring communities and groups at a global level.”
Hmmm what does he mean by organization? He and others are proponents of one world government.
“Time Magazine heralds Deepak Chopra as one of the top 100 heroes and icons of the century, and credits him as poet-prophet of alternative medicine .(Time Magazine, June 1999.)”
Poet-prophet! Whose prophet?
“Chopra is known as a prolific author of over fifty books with thirteen best sellers on mind-body health, quantum mechanics, spirituality, and peace. A global force in the field of human empowerment, Dr. Chopra books has been published in more than thirty-five languages in both fiction and non fiction. His New York Times best sellers, Peace is the Way won the Quill Awards and The Book of Secrets was awarded the grand prize at the 2005 Nautilus Book Awards.”
He has a huge resume and is respected all over the world. He is on newscasts, interviews, articles written about him. Everywhere you turn his name pops up. It is important that we understand what this man and others like him really believe. They are influencing the entire world. If we are not aware it will be our downfall.
We must be Watchers on the Tower!
Deepak Chopra video blogs:
He will be posting twice a week, video blogs as Tools for personal transformation. They will create a library of these personal tools that will help people all in keeping the vow, so that they can collectively convert their personal transformation into the transformation of the world.”
This vow is a foreshadowing of future ones we will see in a world-wide initiation. We have been told this by many different sources. In the Bible we read that you must take the mark of the beast if you want to buy or sell.
What Deepak neglects to say is if you don’t join that you could be holding them back, therefore it will be necessary to exterminate all those that are so selfish that they will not take the vow, for they will be holding back this beautiful peace that is to come, holding back the world’s evolution.
Futurist and Conscious Evolutionist Barbara Marx Hubbard states it pretty clearly in her book the Revelation: Our Crisis is a Birth. The book now can be found renamed the Revelation: A Message of Hope for the New Millennium. She explains a difference between oneness and separation. Oneness means being one with the world and with all mankind and accepting your own divinity. Separation is a false belief that you are separate from God. If you're one with the world you'll help guide the planet to this new evolution. But if you refuse to be one with the world you will be holding back the planet's evolution. If you don't see yourself as divine and you believe you are separate from God you are like a cancer cell on planet Earth that must be removed by what is called a “selection process”. This will be for all the self-centered separatists who believe they’re separate from God and she calls that belief evil. It is all those who believe in the God of Abraham which are Christians Jews and Moslems. If they are not willing to become one with the world they will have to be removed just like cancer is removed from the body because they will be hindering the evolution of the earth and of all humanity. The goal is world peace. If we as “Christs” can accomplish it we can avoid Armageddon.
The vow that causes this great polarization may not be this particular vow, lets hope not.
There will be one in the future that will be the real deal.
But this still is a significant step towards preparing the way. Though this particular vow may not be truly binding, in spite of Deepak’s own words they it is binding, it is at least a very strong foreshadowing of what is to come.
The Plan of the Occult has always included different stages of initiation. They have been doing this since Cain slew Abel. A Master teaches a student Secret Doctrines and they take secret vows or oaths. There are multiple levels of initiation. Initiates in Theosophy were sworn to secrecy till 1975 when they were allowed to teach openly to the public some of the secret doctrines. Prior to that they could only talk to other initiates about their occult knowledge. They recognized each other by code words that only initiates knew. That I have found works today also. I am able to recognize those that are occultists by the words or phrases they use.
Helena Blavatsky, Alice Bailey, David Spangler and many others clearly state in their writings about the world-wide initiations that will come.
David Spangler was the co director of the Findhorn Foundation and is Founder-director of Lorian Association. He is a new-age occultist who actually states that there will be initiations into the new age and that they are Luciferic. “I am prepared to accept my Christhood, my light, my gateway, my life, as being the doorway to the father, to the beloved, to God. No man may condemn me. I may go and sin the sin of inner separation no more, and free myself and Lucifer into the reality of the Christ and the wholeness of God, which is the essence of us both.”
“Lucifer comes to give us the final gift of wholeness. If we accept it then he is free and we are free. That is the Luciferic Initiation. It is one that many people now, and in the days ahead, we’ll be facing, for is an initiation into the new age. It is an initiation of leaving the past and moving into the new, shedding our guilts and fears, our anxieties, our needs, our temptations and becoming whole and at peace because we have recognized our inner light and the light that unfolds us, the light of God.” “In the new age consciousness there is not good and evil.”
Theosophist Helena Blavatsky is often called the mother of the New Age Movement. She had at one time a magazine called Lucifer and she talks throughout all her books about initiations.
Alice Bailey in her books discusses the different stages of initiations. When she first printed her books she named their publishing company “Lucifer Publishing Company”. By 1925 the name was changed to Lucis Publishing. “Lucifer” and “Lucis” come from the same word root, lucis being the Latin genitive case meaning of light. She talks about a new-age initiation in The Externalization of the Hierarchy on page 575 “ This first great initiation will be objectively staged and the general public will recognize it as a major rite and ritual of the new religious institution of the period.”
All the above authors and many others talk of initiations into a one world religion. All of the proponents of these initiations claim Peace. Through these initiations the world will once and finally become at peace under their “Christ” which they make very clear is not Jesus of Nazareth. He is the Christ that supposedly overshadowed Jesus of Nazareth. We would call him the anti-Christ.
This is a quote from the Spanglers’ Findhorn Foundation’s website www.findhorn.org
on the Findhorn Foundation history page:
In 1970 a young American spiritual teacher named David Spangler arrived in the community and with his partner Myrtle Glines helped to define and organise the spiritual education processes that have been a central pillar of the Findhorn community ever since. A curriculum was established and the work of the ‘University of Light’ began. David and Myrtle lived in the community for three years, during which Findhorn Press published many of David's visionary writings. Today we run almost 200 week-long courses every year as well as conferences, trainings and our busy Outreach programme of educational workshops taken around the world by our workshop leaders.”
“In 1997 the Foundation was recognised as an official Non-Governmental Organisation associated with the Department of Public Information of United Nations, and actively participates in a variety of UN events”
David Spangler Quotes from his bookReflections on the Christ.
“Lucifer is literally the angel of experiences for man.”… >“Lucifer, then, is neither good nor bad in his true essence. He is completely neutral. He is an agent of God’s love acting through evolution. The energies he provides for our use are neutral. We can use them, the energies of experience and of consciousness, to draw to ourselves things that help us grow or we can draw to ourselves limitation by refusing to grow.” “He comes to make us aware of our power within, to draw to ourselves experience. He comes to make us aware of the power of creative manifestation which we wield.”
“When you are working with the laws of manifestation you are in essence manifesting a Luciferic principle, because you are establishing a centre around which or towards which something can move, something can be attracted inward to become fulfilled or realized or brought into manifestation.”
These are just some of many revealing quotes David had said regarding Lucifer. As you can tell we hear many of the same terms and beliefs being used by other New-Age leaders Like Oprah Winfrey, Deepak Chopra, Marianne Williamson, Wayne Dyer, Eckhart Tolle. Books like “The Secret”, “The Power of Intention”, “The Law of Attraction”, and “Manifest Your Destiny”. David Spangler openly explains the principles found in these writings and credits them to Lucifer.
Eckart Tolle is connected with Findhorn foundation where David set up their spiritual education plan.
From Amazon.com
Eckhart Tolle's Findhorn Retreat: Stillness Amidst the World [AUDIOBOOK] [CD] (Audio CD)
Product Description
“Best-selling author and spiritual guide Eckhart Tolle led a remarkable two-day retreat at Findhorn, Scotland, a community on the leading edge of personal and global transformation. His weekend talks, captured on audio, create a deeply moving experience for listeners. Speaking on the subject of stillness, which he describes as a doorway into the Now and to true personal enlightenment, Tolle shows listeners how to find stillness in the present moment and enter a deeper dimension of peace and fulfillment. His practical, powerful tools for transformation offer the clear guidance needed to realize the magic of every moment and to reconnect to the sacredness of life and of being. Tolle’s lighthearted delivery lends sparkling highlights to the jewels of wisdom that he shares — words that convey, with the timeless clarity of the ancient spiritual masters, a simple yet profound message of hope.”
Deepak Chopra regarding his book:
“What if Jesus wanted his followers—and us—to reach the same unity with God that he had reached? My story is based on the premise that he did. By following the young seeker from Nazareth on his path to Christhood, I’ve laid out a map of enlightenment. It wasn’t necessary to invent the map. Enlightenment has existed in every age. The path from suffering and separation to bliss and unity with God is well marked. I put Jesus on this path because I believe he walked it.”
–Deepak Chopra from
JESUS: A Story of Enlightenment
________________________________________
There are no facts to tell us what happened to the young Jesus during his “lost years” between the Nativity story and the day he appears at the River Jordan, age thirty, to be baptized. I was glad for this mystery, because it allowed me to describe an extraordinary youth who discovers, step by step, that he is the awaited Messiah. This isn’t a fictional biography but a journey into the realm of miracles and, in the end, complete enlightenment.
It’s been a long time — perhaps as far back as Thomas Jefferson — that Americans seriously considered Jesus, not as the Son of God, but as an enlightened teacher. For me, that doesn’t rob him of his sacred stature. It puts sacredness in human terms.
I hope the reader comes away appreciating how enlightenment unfolds from promising beginnings, not full divinity. In an age when Jesus threatens to become the exclusive property of fervent, literal-minded devotees, we have an urgent need to bring him back, not as the savior, but as a savior — one who won his own salvation before promising it to the world.
Love,
Deepak
Do you want to take a vow with someone that does not believe Jesus Christ is the son of God and the Savior, who has redefined Christ? His book “The Third Jesus” is very occult.
Here are some editorial reviews:
"The hardest thing to see is what is hidden in plain sight. After 20 centuries of doctrine and dogma we have nearly lost sight of the Jesus who was a wandering teacher of mystical truths. In his imaginative reconstruction of the inner meaning of the gospels, Deepak Chopra reminds us of The Third Jesus, the enlightened master of God-consciousness. It will disturb the minds of the orthodox, and delight the spirits of mystics and progressive Christians."
—Sam Keen, Philosopher and Author, Sightings: Extraordinary Encounters with Ordinary Birds
"In this intriguing study of the sayings of Jesus, Deepak Chopra gently releases this highly evolved spiritual teacher, light of the world and son of God from the limitations of dogmatic theology. With profound wisdom and clarity Deepak offers the amazing suggestion that the same God-consciousness embodied in the human Jesus is present in all of us individually and collectively. In a spirit of humble knowingness Deepak encourages us to look deep into the mirror of our collective souls and ponder the question Jesus continues to ask “Who do YOU say that I AM ?"
Deepak is not alone. There is a huge movement today that keeps changing its name, but the beliefs stay the same, that humanity is evolving and needs to evolve into a Universal Human, accepting the “divine within” and living at peace with everyone, at peace with the world and being one with the world. Their Christ wants everyone to be one with the world. This gives more insight into scriptures that say Christ is not of this world.
Christ said to Pilate:
John 18:36
36 Jesus said, "My kingdom is not of this world. If it were, my servants would fight to prevent my arrest by the Jews. But now my kingdom is from another place."
They say there is no sin, that there is no need for a Savior, That anyone that becomes Enlightened or Awakened comes to the understanding that they are “god’ that everything and everyone is “god”, but the ones that will hold back this Utopia are the selfish self-centered people that believe in a God separate from themselves, the God of Abraham.
They call good evil and evil good.
Barbara Marx Hubbard, Neal Donald Walsh, Eckhart Tolle, Deepak Chopra, Marianne Williamson, Louise Hay, and Wayne Dyer are just some of the Spiritual leaders expressing these ideas today, many of which are being highly promoted by Oprah. Oprah is not a Christian, but rather a full-blown Occultist. I have researched her progression into this occult movement and she is now involved full force and feels she is on a mission. If you have not heard yet she now owns a network where all of these New Age leaders will be given more time 24-7 to share their “truths” with the world. The network is called OWN, the Oprah Winfrey Network. It used to be one of the discovery networks. She has full creative control. I can only imagine what that will be like. Considering her working with Marianne Williamson to promote “The Course in Miracles” on radio, and Eckhart Tolle’s lessons on the internet of how to create a New Earth she will expand that on this station.
If you know all the players you start to get the big picture of what is happening. They all promote the notion that each of us is ‘god”, the principle of reincarnation, and the “truth” that there is no sin, therefore no need for a savior, or repentance. The only evil is not to recognize your own divinity and everyone else’s.
Who else wanted to exalt himself above the throne of God?
Isaiah 14
12 How you have fallen from heaven,
O morning star, son of the dawn!
You have been cast down to the earth,
you who once laid low the nations!
13 You said in your heart,
"I will ascend to heaven;
I will raise my throne
above the stars of God;
I will sit enthroned on the mount of assembly,
on the utmost heights of the sacred mountain.
14 I will ascend above the tops of the clouds;
I will make myself like the Most High."
We are told by the teachers of the New Age that we are “gods” not even tying to use the idea it is by being righteous, but just because we are. When you Awaken this is the knowledge you gain that you are “god” .
That is what all the self-empowerment mumbo-jumbo is about. The power is in you because you are “god”.
As they are teaching, if we all take a vow and live by it we will collectively transform the world because we are “gods”.
Warn all Christians you can against this lie of Lucifer.
Do not take this vow or the others that are to come.
I saw a comment from a girl who took the vow, who was exited that this meant no more abortions. It only will mean what the Occult leaders say it means. They state the greatest evil is being a separatist, believing in the God of Abraham. So what really is violence to them? Most likely it will be what of Barbara Marx Hubbard said, that Christians are a cancer on the earth, which must be removed.
Non-violence may have different meanings. We now know the Deepak Chopra says it means peace, but that a better definition is given by the Sanskrit word Ahimsa, which is ‘an active interaction with others and nature on the basis of the spiritual unity which connects us all.” “So nonviolence is not passive, but active in a nurturing way.” “Ahimsa describes behavior that respects and supports all who are involved.” “It assumes a universality the way that the greeting namaste recognizes that the divinity in others is the same as the divinity within us.”
What does that mean? What if you are not part of the “all who are involved”?
Wikipedia states that Ahimsa in Hindu scriptures and law books support the use of violence in self-defense against an armed attacker.[28] They make it clear that criminals are not protected by the rule of ahimsa.[29] They have no misgivings about the death penalty; their position is that evil-doers who deserve death should be killed, and that a king in particular is obliged to punish criminals and should not hesitate to kill them, even if they happen to be his own brothers and sons.[30]
So what happens if Christians make the list of evil doers? Actually we already have…their hate for Traditional Christians is frightening. They believe the only sin is being a separatist and not excepting your own godhood, which notion is anathema to the beliefs of Christians, Muslims and Jews. Where does this put us in the new laws that will be enforced?
Wikipedia states
“According to some interpretations, the concept of ahimsa as expounded in the scriptures and law books is not meant to imply pacifism; war is seen as a normal part of life and the natural duty of the warriors.[31] In the second chapter of the Bhagavad Gita Krishna refutes the pacifist ideas of Arjuna and uses various arguments to convince him that he must fight and kill in the impending battle. According to this interpretation of the scriptures, face-to-face combat is highly meritorious and fighters who die in battle go to heaven.[32]”
Who will they be fighting?
New Agers really don’t have an issue with killing. Nor do they think Hitler was evil.
This is a good article:
href="http://www.crossroad.to/Quotes/spirituality/Occult.html">www.crossroad.to/Quotes/spirituality/Occult.html
CONVERSATIONS WITH GOD, Book 2
THERE IS NO EVIL
"Hitler went to heaven." (35)
"Because Hitler did nothing wrong. Hitler simply did what he did." (55)
"...The mistakes Hitler made did no harm or damage to those whose deaths he caused. Those souls were released from their earthly bondage. . . . No one who has experienced death ever mourns the death of anyone." (42)
"Hitler was created by you. He arose out of your Collective Consciousness.... The consciousness of separation, segregation, superiority – of 'we' versus 'they,' of 'us" and 'them' – is what creates the Hitler Experience. The consciousness of Divine Brotherhood, of unity, of Oneness, of 'ours,' not just 'yours/mine,' is what creates the Christ experience." (55)
ALL ARE CREATORS
"Everyone is creating everything now being experienced. . . for I am everyone. . . . There is only one of us." (68)
"God is the All, and the Goddess is everything, and there is nothing else that is;" (92
So if the Christian, Jews and Muslims are exterminated there is nothing wrong with it just like before…..
As you can see they twist meanings and definitions of words so this non-violence vow may be the very opposite of what it appears to be. As all other terms have change meanings under the occult don’t be surprised that it may be a different interpretation of it. It may be interpreted as eliminating those that are selfish separatists, that they deem violent, to save the rest of the truly non-violent people. In the writings of Alice Bailey in the name of peace she wants all the world’s nuclear weapons gathered and given to the UN to be used against any nations or religious groups that will not go along with their peace plan of one-world government and one-world religion.
It is Lucifer’s peace plan people are vowing to, not Jesus Christ our Savior’s. Remember when Christ comes again it will not be in peace. His robe will be dipped in blood. He will come as a warrior in battle to destroy the wicked of the world. Then his reign of peace will begin.
So what does this vow really mean? What is hidden, that they are not telling us upfront?
Beware of Lucifer coming as an Angel of light.
Prophecy has warned us to beware of Peace:
Daniel 8:25
25 And through his policy also he shall cause craft to prosper in his hand; and he shall magnify himself in his heart, and by peace shall destroy many: he shall also stand up against the Prince of princes; but he shall be broken without hand.
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Thessalonians Chapter 5:3
3 For when they shall say, Peace and safety; then sudden destruction cometh upon them, as travail upon a woman with child; and they shall not escape
Be Strong in Christ. Stand upon the Watchtower and Proclaim the Warning. Help Save Souls from this Luciferic movement.
God Bless You. God save those who believe in him, whom the Occult are planning to exterminate. God bless especially the True Believers of Jesus Christ.
Rose
There is a new movement just underway in its infancy called “I Take the Vow”, created by the Spiritual leader Deepak Chopra. At the time I wrote this article almost 13,000 people had taken the vow. http://itakethevow.com
It is a vow of nonviolence. How it is being presented is very beautiful, loving and peaceful. Who does not want a peaceful world? The problem lies in what they mean by peace and how they really plan to accomplish it. I take the vow website will not and does not tell you the whole story. You have to find out what the founders truly believe to get the whole story. You can find it in many writings of Deepak Chopra who is a New Age occultist, and those of his peers. They are networked together now through many various organizations. The peace they proclaim can only be achieved once there are no more believers in the God of Abraham, a God that is separate from ourselves. This is clearly stated by Barbara Marx Hubbard who holds the same beliefs and is also in the same organizations with Deepak Chopra and other New Age Occult leaders. I will give more details regarding that later. They are constantly stating that Religion is the primary cause of all the major wars on this planet. Therefore it must be done away with. It is old and out-dated and they say evil. Everyone that believes in the God of Abraham, and Jesus Christ as a personal Savior and do not accept that they are “god” will hold back the entire planet’s evolution. Therefore those persons have to join with them or be eliminated. We have to look into what they mean by non-violence. Nothing is always what it appears on the surface with the New Age/Occult.
When I saw this new site www.itakethevow.com in December my mind was flooded with all the research I have done on initiations. At face value this may appear sweet or simple, but don’t be fooled. It goes much deeper than what it appears. Remember Lucifer can appear as an Angel of Light.
Deepak Chopra
Posted November 7, 2008 | 10:58 PM (EST) on The Huffington Post
“It all began November 7, 2008 when he took the vow personally.
Dear Friends,
On November 7, 2008, at 9:45am ,
I, Deepak Chopra, took a vow of non-violence in my thoughts, in my speech and in my actions. I, then, also had an opportunity to ask the almost 500 people attending the plenary session for the Alliance for a New Humanity in Barcelona if they would join me in this commitment.
I first asked them to close their eyes, put their awareness in their hearts and ask themselves honestly and seriously if they were willing to take a vow.
I told them that a vow is a sacred commitment from which there is no going back. It is like a child that is born, who cannot return to the womb.
I told them if they were ready to take this vow, they should stand up.
People stood up, one by one at first, then in groups of twos and threes, and finally in tidal waves, until more than 450 people had stood up and taken the vow.
Following this, everybody agreed to have at least two people in their lives take the vow. The two in turn, would have two others join them in taking the vow. Our immediate goal now is to get 100 Million people across the world to take this vow. In the meantime, we will be setting up ways to measure and support the dramatic effects this tidal wave of shift in consciousness is going to create.
Are you seriously committed to bringing about a world of peace, harmony, laughter and love by taking this vow and getting two people to join you?
If you are ready, please post a blog on Intent.com entitled: I take the vow.
Let us know that you have passed on the vow to two friends. And, if
you wish tell us your thoughts in the post, we would love to hear them.
Love,
Deepak Chopra
President and Founder of the Alliance For A New Humanity”
Please note what he said. “I told them that a vow is a sacred commitment from which there is no going back. It is like a child that is born, who cannot return to the womb.” That is a strong statement. He has also called for missionary work! His goal is 100 million to take the vow. There is a reason for that number and I will go into that later.
The web site www.itakethevow.com was created around the beginning of December 2008. Within three weeks they had over 3000 persons who had pledged this vow. Now it is skyrocketing due to Deepak Chopra’s book tour. Where he is promoting his new novel called Jesus: A Story of Enlightenment and the “I take the vow” website.
This is an excerpt of the book I have found online. I can not verify the accuracy of this quote yet. I have ordered this book and will have my own quotes and opinions in later articles.
In the book: Jesus' mysterious teacher tells him:
"Only someone who can see the demons as part of God is free. Good and evil dissolve. The veil drops away, and all you see is divine light - inside, outside, everywhere...Your soul is the world's soul. In your resurrection will be the resurrection of the world."
Demons are part of God! Good and evil don’t exist? You and the world’s souls are one? So you are one with the World! Through you the world is resurrected? Not through Jesus Christ but you? Because you are “Christ’.
The book describes a very different Jesus than the traditional Christians know. He is teaching occult ideas. Every review I have seen says clearly that this is a “new perspective” or idea of Jesus being taught not the traditional Jesus. It is not new, it is ancient. It is the teachings of the Occult that have been passed down through the ages. It is just being repackaged.
Deepak Chopra is a New Age/ New Spirituality/ Occult leader. He is called by the media and interviewers a Spiritual leader. Deepak Chopra was on the Ellen DeGeneres show on Tuesday January 6, 2009. He was promoting the “I take a vow” website and his new book on Jesus. It is a novel that fills in Jesus’ life during the missing years. Filling them with occult doctrines Jesus learned from Masters etc... The www.itakethevow.com numbers of people joining is growing fast. It started about the beginning of December. There were just over 3000 within 3 weeks of that date, then on 12/13/08 it hit 5253, after I saw the show I checked the number 9059 and within 24 hours it increase almost 2000 persons. It appears that going on Ellen was quite successful. That is its biggest jump during one day I have seen. Ellen put the link to www.itakethevow.com on her website and told everyone to check it out. So the numbers are increasing by the minute. This is a stealthy way of preparing the world to take initiations. It is preparatory work for what is to come. When we have to accept or reject the mark of the beast. We are now more and more each day having to choose what side we are on; there is really no middle ground left anymore.
Here is the vow that he asks you to take:
VOW
First, close your eyes and put your awareness in your heart. You can easily focus on someone you love, and feel that love building in your heart, when you feel full of love, ask your self honestly and seriously if you are willing to commit to a vow of nonviolence, in your speech, your thoughts and your actions.
A vow is a sacred commitment from which there is no going back. It is like a child that is born, who cannot return to the womb. By committing to the vow, you also agree to have at least two people in their lives take the vow.
Are you seriously committed to bringing about a world of peace, harmony, laughter and love by taking this vow and getting two people to join you?
If you are ready, please click below to enter your email to be counted as a part of our first 100 million people.
Take the vow now.
(Then you enter your email address and the send you an email back that you forward on to two people.)
Note the statement that a vow is a Sacred Commitment from which there is no going back!
Quote from Deepak Chopra:
On November 7, 2008, at 9:45 am, the 500 people attending the Alliance for a New Humanity Human Forum in Barcelona took a vow for non violence in their thoughts, speech and actions. Each person decided to ask other people in their lives to join them in taking the vow. The goal then became to create a global movement, which would mobilize 100 million people to make the same commitment. We, at the Alliance for a New Humanity believe that if a critical mass of people commit to this vow, the world would be transformed. If you are seriously committed to peace, join us in this global movement and take the vow.
Love,
Deepak Chopra
President and Founder of the Alliance For A New Humanity
What does he mean by the world being transformed? And what does he mean by reaching Critical Mass?
This will help explain what Deepak Chopra is talking about:
The New-Age spiritualists talk about the Hundredth monkey theory.
The Following is from the website: http://pure-research.net/healing/light/monkey.html
The Japanese monkey, Macaca fuscata, had been observed in the wild for a period of over 30 years. In 1952, on the Island of Koshima, scientists were providing monkeys with sweet potatoes dropped in the sand. The monkeys liked the taste of the raw sweet potatoes, but found the dirt unpleasant. An 18 month old female named Imo found she could solve the problem by washing the potatoes in the salty ocean water, improving the taste of the potato. She taught this trick to her mother. Her playmates learned this trick and taught their mothers too. This cultural innovation was gradually picked up by numerous monkeys in the troop and observed by the scientists.
Between 1952 and 1958, all the young monkeys learned to wash the sandy sweet potatoes and make them more palatable. Only the adults who imitated their children learned this cultural improvement. Other adult monkeys kept eating the dirty sweet potatoes. In autumn of 1958, something startling took place. A certain number of Koshima monkeys were already washing their sweet potatoes, the exact number is not known. The hypothetical number given was 99. Then it happened. The hundredth monkey learned to wash the sweet potatoes. The added energy of that hundredth monkey somehow created an ideological breakthrough. Almost everyone in the tribe was washing their potatoes before eating them, but a surprising occurrence was observed by these scientists. The habit of washing the sweet potato had jumped overseas. Colonies of monkeys on other islands and the mainland troop at Takaskiyama began washing their sweet potatoes.
Although the exact number may vary, this Hundredth Monkey Phenomenon means that when only a limited number of individuals knows a 'new way', it remains the conscious property of those individuals. However, when one more individual manifests this new awareness, the field is strengthened, a critical mass is reached, and the awareness becomes the conscious property of all. This new awareness is communicated mind to mind.
From The Hundredth Monkey by Ken Keyes Jr
So in other words if “I Take the Vow” reaches Critical Mass the rest of the worlds humans will follow into the same Enlightenment or Awakening because all the rest will be transformed with them from mind to mind, telepathically. Therefore Awakening and changing the world. But there is a catch. Some are not “evolved” enough and will not join. And as Deepak said on a January MTV interview something to the effect “that it is the collective consciousness that causes bad things to happen, he even said that there are no victims…..”
So that means those that do not choose the “new way” will be in the way, therefore causing negative things to happen. It will be like separating the wheat from the tares but in this case Christians will be considered the tares of this world.
Quotes from questions ask to Deepak Chopra regarding the vow.
“The violence in our society is a projection of the violence in side all of us. We are not the victim, we are the creators of violence. To some extent we all participate in creating the violence in the world. By taking a personal oath of non-violence, and sticking to it, we will collectively manifest a world of peace, harmony, laughter, love and compassion.
It will take a critical mass of people taking this vow, and using it as a reminder in their daily life to achieve this. That's why we are committing to a goal of 100 million of us taking the vow. (The more the better)”
“The time has come where we must collectively participate in the next state of evolution from our violent nature into our wise and peaceful nature or else we will not survive.”
“By stating the vow of nonviolence explicitly and asking those who are close to you to remind you when you are deviating from those principles of nonviolence, accelerates the process of evolution.”
“The vow of non-violence is a vow of peace. It amounts to the same thing. Whatever language one chooses there are bound to be certain pitfalls associated with it. As we know, people have tried to justify war and violence in the name of peace as well. I see the vow of non-violence in terms of the Sanskrit word Ahimsa, which is an active interaction with others and nature on the basis of the spiritual unity which connects us all. So nonviolence is not passive, but active in a nurturing way. Ahimsa describes behavior that respects and supports all who are involved. It assumes a universality the way that the greeting namaste recognizes that the divinity in others is the same as the divinity within us.”
“When we see, feel and know that consciousness that we are all a part of, then becoming a peacemaker comes naturally, and compassion, joyfulness, and friendliness towards others is just an expression of who we are.”
Deepak Chopra
Here are quotes from opening video of Deepak Chopra Alliance for a New Humanity website that has created I take the vow.
Imagine …humanity at peace.
Every mind that is at and peace ….
…adds to the peace of the world.
If enough people share the value peace….
…war can be brought to an end.
A shift in consciousness...
…can transform the world.
Such a shift is already occurring…
….it just needs critical mass.
You could be the turning point.
“You must be the change you want to see in the world” Mahatma Gandhi.
Side note: There is great evidence that Mahatma Gandhi became and initiate under Helena Blavatsky.
Here are quotes from Alliance for a New Humanity website:
Our Intention
“To create an alliance of people based on the awareness of humanity’s interconnectedness. We believe that if enough people share the value of peace, war can be brought to an end. If enough people shift their awareness toward social justice, human rights, and environmental sustainability, then injustice, oppression, and the destruction of the ecosystem can be stopped.
Such a shift is already occurring - now it needs critical mass, which in turn needs organization. The Alliance aims to connect individuals, caring communities and groups at a global level.”
Hmmm what does he mean by organization? He and others are proponents of one world government.
“Time Magazine heralds Deepak Chopra as one of the top 100 heroes and icons of the century, and credits him as poet-prophet of alternative medicine .(Time Magazine, June 1999.)”
Poet-prophet! Whose prophet?
“Chopra is known as a prolific author of over fifty books with thirteen best sellers on mind-body health, quantum mechanics, spirituality, and peace. A global force in the field of human empowerment, Dr. Chopra books has been published in more than thirty-five languages in both fiction and non fiction. His New York Times best sellers, Peace is the Way won the Quill Awards and The Book of Secrets was awarded the grand prize at the 2005 Nautilus Book Awards.”
He has a huge resume and is respected all over the world. He is on newscasts, interviews, articles written about him. Everywhere you turn his name pops up. It is important that we understand what this man and others like him really believe. They are influencing the entire world. If we are not aware it will be our downfall.
We must be Watchers on the Tower!
Deepak Chopra video blogs:
He will be posting twice a week, video blogs as Tools for personal transformation. They will create a library of these personal tools that will help people all in keeping the vow, so that they can collectively convert their personal transformation into the transformation of the world.”
This vow is a foreshadowing of future ones we will see in a world-wide initiation. We have been told this by many different sources. In the Bible we read that you must take the mark of the beast if you want to buy or sell.
What Deepak neglects to say is if you don’t join that you could be holding them back, therefore it will be necessary to exterminate all those that are so selfish that they will not take the vow, for they will be holding back this beautiful peace that is to come, holding back the world’s evolution.
Futurist and Conscious Evolutionist Barbara Marx Hubbard states it pretty clearly in her book the Revelation: Our Crisis is a Birth. The book now can be found renamed the Revelation: A Message of Hope for the New Millennium. She explains a difference between oneness and separation. Oneness means being one with the world and with all mankind and accepting your own divinity. Separation is a false belief that you are separate from God. If you're one with the world you'll help guide the planet to this new evolution. But if you refuse to be one with the world you will be holding back the planet's evolution. If you don't see yourself as divine and you believe you are separate from God you are like a cancer cell on planet Earth that must be removed by what is called a “selection process”. This will be for all the self-centered separatists who believe they’re separate from God and she calls that belief evil. It is all those who believe in the God of Abraham which are Christians Jews and Moslems. If they are not willing to become one with the world they will have to be removed just like cancer is removed from the body because they will be hindering the evolution of the earth and of all humanity. The goal is world peace. If we as “Christs” can accomplish it we can avoid Armageddon.
The vow that causes this great polarization may not be this particular vow, lets hope not.
There will be one in the future that will be the real deal.
But this still is a significant step towards preparing the way. Though this particular vow may not be truly binding, in spite of Deepak’s own words they it is binding, it is at least a very strong foreshadowing of what is to come.
The Plan of the Occult has always included different stages of initiation. They have been doing this since Cain slew Abel. A Master teaches a student Secret Doctrines and they take secret vows or oaths. There are multiple levels of initiation. Initiates in Theosophy were sworn to secrecy till 1975 when they were allowed to teach openly to the public some of the secret doctrines. Prior to that they could only talk to other initiates about their occult knowledge. They recognized each other by code words that only initiates knew. That I have found works today also. I am able to recognize those that are occultists by the words or phrases they use.
Helena Blavatsky, Alice Bailey, David Spangler and many others clearly state in their writings about the world-wide initiations that will come.
David Spangler was the co director of the Findhorn Foundation and is Founder-director of Lorian Association. He is a new-age occultist who actually states that there will be initiations into the new age and that they are Luciferic. “I am prepared to accept my Christhood, my light, my gateway, my life, as being the doorway to the father, to the beloved, to God. No man may condemn me. I may go and sin the sin of inner separation no more, and free myself and Lucifer into the reality of the Christ and the wholeness of God, which is the essence of us both.”
“Lucifer comes to give us the final gift of wholeness. If we accept it then he is free and we are free. That is the Luciferic Initiation. It is one that many people now, and in the days ahead, we’ll be facing, for is an initiation into the new age. It is an initiation of leaving the past and moving into the new, shedding our guilts and fears, our anxieties, our needs, our temptations and becoming whole and at peace because we have recognized our inner light and the light that unfolds us, the light of God.” “In the new age consciousness there is not good and evil.”
Theosophist Helena Blavatsky is often called the mother of the New Age Movement. She had at one time a magazine called Lucifer and she talks throughout all her books about initiations.
Alice Bailey in her books discusses the different stages of initiations. When she first printed her books she named their publishing company “Lucifer Publishing Company”. By 1925 the name was changed to Lucis Publishing. “Lucifer” and “Lucis” come from the same word root, lucis being the Latin genitive case meaning of light. She talks about a new-age initiation in The Externalization of the Hierarchy on page 575 “ This first great initiation will be objectively staged and the general public will recognize it as a major rite and ritual of the new religious institution of the period.”
All the above authors and many others talk of initiations into a one world religion. All of the proponents of these initiations claim Peace. Through these initiations the world will once and finally become at peace under their “Christ” which they make very clear is not Jesus of Nazareth. He is the Christ that supposedly overshadowed Jesus of Nazareth. We would call him the anti-Christ.
This is a quote from the Spanglers’ Findhorn Foundation’s website www.findhorn.org
on the Findhorn Foundation history page:
In 1970 a young American spiritual teacher named David Spangler arrived in the community and with his partner Myrtle Glines helped to define and organise the spiritual education processes that have been a central pillar of the Findhorn community ever since. A curriculum was established and the work of the ‘University of Light’ began. David and Myrtle lived in the community for three years, during which Findhorn Press published many of David's visionary writings. Today we run almost 200 week-long courses every year as well as conferences, trainings and our busy Outreach programme of educational workshops taken around the world by our workshop leaders.”
“In 1997 the Foundation was recognised as an official Non-Governmental Organisation associated with the Department of Public Information of United Nations, and actively participates in a variety of UN events”
David Spangler Quotes from his bookReflections on the Christ.
“Lucifer is literally the angel of experiences for man.”… >“Lucifer, then, is neither good nor bad in his true essence. He is completely neutral. He is an agent of God’s love acting through evolution. The energies he provides for our use are neutral. We can use them, the energies of experience and of consciousness, to draw to ourselves things that help us grow or we can draw to ourselves limitation by refusing to grow.” “He comes to make us aware of our power within, to draw to ourselves experience. He comes to make us aware of the power of creative manifestation which we wield.”
“When you are working with the laws of manifestation you are in essence manifesting a Luciferic principle, because you are establishing a centre around which or towards which something can move, something can be attracted inward to become fulfilled or realized or brought into manifestation.”
These are just some of many revealing quotes David had said regarding Lucifer. As you can tell we hear many of the same terms and beliefs being used by other New-Age leaders Like Oprah Winfrey, Deepak Chopra, Marianne Williamson, Wayne Dyer, Eckhart Tolle. Books like “The Secret”, “The Power of Intention”, “The Law of Attraction”, and “Manifest Your Destiny”. David Spangler openly explains the principles found in these writings and credits them to Lucifer.
Eckart Tolle is connected with Findhorn foundation where David set up their spiritual education plan.
From Amazon.com
Eckhart Tolle's Findhorn Retreat: Stillness Amidst the World [AUDIOBOOK] [CD] (Audio CD)
Product Description
“Best-selling author and spiritual guide Eckhart Tolle led a remarkable two-day retreat at Findhorn, Scotland, a community on the leading edge of personal and global transformation. His weekend talks, captured on audio, create a deeply moving experience for listeners. Speaking on the subject of stillness, which he describes as a doorway into the Now and to true personal enlightenment, Tolle shows listeners how to find stillness in the present moment and enter a deeper dimension of peace and fulfillment. His practical, powerful tools for transformation offer the clear guidance needed to realize the magic of every moment and to reconnect to the sacredness of life and of being. Tolle’s lighthearted delivery lends sparkling highlights to the jewels of wisdom that he shares — words that convey, with the timeless clarity of the ancient spiritual masters, a simple yet profound message of hope.”
Deepak Chopra regarding his book:
“What if Jesus wanted his followers—and us—to reach the same unity with God that he had reached? My story is based on the premise that he did. By following the young seeker from Nazareth on his path to Christhood, I’ve laid out a map of enlightenment. It wasn’t necessary to invent the map. Enlightenment has existed in every age. The path from suffering and separation to bliss and unity with God is well marked. I put Jesus on this path because I believe he walked it.”
–Deepak Chopra from
JESUS: A Story of Enlightenment
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There are no facts to tell us what happened to the young Jesus during his “lost years” between the Nativity story and the day he appears at the River Jordan, age thirty, to be baptized. I was glad for this mystery, because it allowed me to describe an extraordinary youth who discovers, step by step, that he is the awaited Messiah. This isn’t a fictional biography but a journey into the realm of miracles and, in the end, complete enlightenment.
It’s been a long time — perhaps as far back as Thomas Jefferson — that Americans seriously considered Jesus, not as the Son of God, but as an enlightened teacher. For me, that doesn’t rob him of his sacred stature. It puts sacredness in human terms.
I hope the reader comes away appreciating how enlightenment unfolds from promising beginnings, not full divinity. In an age when Jesus threatens to become the exclusive property of fervent, literal-minded devotees, we have an urgent need to bring him back, not as the savior, but as a savior — one who won his own salvation before promising it to the world.
Love,
Deepak
Do you want to take a vow with someone that does not believe Jesus Christ is the son of God and the Savior, who has redefined Christ? His book “The Third Jesus” is very occult.
Here are some editorial reviews:
"The hardest thing to see is what is hidden in plain sight. After 20 centuries of doctrine and dogma we have nearly lost sight of the Jesus who was a wandering teacher of mystical truths. In his imaginative reconstruction of the inner meaning of the gospels, Deepak Chopra reminds us of The Third Jesus, the enlightened master of God-consciousness. It will disturb the minds of the orthodox, and delight the spirits of mystics and progressive Christians."
—Sam Keen, Philosopher and Author, Sightings: Extraordinary Encounters with Ordinary Birds
"In this intriguing study of the sayings of Jesus, Deepak Chopra gently releases this highly evolved spiritual teacher, light of the world and son of God from the limitations of dogmatic theology. With profound wisdom and clarity Deepak offers the amazing suggestion that the same God-consciousness embodied in the human Jesus is present in all of us individually and collectively. In a spirit of humble knowingness Deepak encourages us to look deep into the mirror of our collective souls and ponder the question Jesus continues to ask “Who do YOU say that I AM ?"
Deepak is not alone. There is a huge movement today that keeps changing its name, but the beliefs stay the same, that humanity is evolving and needs to evolve into a Universal Human, accepting the “divine within” and living at peace with everyone, at peace with the world and being one with the world. Their Christ wants everyone to be one with the world. This gives more insight into scriptures that say Christ is not of this world.
Christ said to Pilate:
John 18:36
36 Jesus said, "My kingdom is not of this world. If it were, my servants would fight to prevent my arrest by the Jews. But now my kingdom is from another place."
They say there is no sin, that there is no need for a Savior, That anyone that becomes Enlightened or Awakened comes to the understanding that they are “god’ that everything and everyone is “god”, but the ones that will hold back this Utopia are the selfish self-centered people that believe in a God separate from themselves, the God of Abraham.
They call good evil and evil good.
Barbara Marx Hubbard, Neal Donald Walsh, Eckhart Tolle, Deepak Chopra, Marianne Williamson, Louise Hay, and Wayne Dyer are just some of the Spiritual leaders expressing these ideas today, many of which are being highly promoted by Oprah. Oprah is not a Christian, but rather a full-blown Occultist. I have researched her progression into this occult movement and she is now involved full force and feels she is on a mission. If you have not heard yet she now owns a network where all of these New Age leaders will be given more time 24-7 to share their “truths” with the world. The network is called OWN, the Oprah Winfrey Network. It used to be one of the discovery networks. She has full creative control. I can only imagine what that will be like. Considering her working with Marianne Williamson to promote “The Course in Miracles” on radio, and Eckhart Tolle’s lessons on the internet of how to create a New Earth she will expand that on this station.
If you know all the players you start to get the big picture of what is happening. They all promote the notion that each of us is ‘god”, the principle of reincarnation, and the “truth” that there is no sin, therefore no need for a savior, or repentance. The only evil is not to recognize your own divinity and everyone else’s.
Who else wanted to exalt himself above the throne of God?
Isaiah 14
12 How you have fallen from heaven,
O morning star, son of the dawn!
You have been cast down to the earth,
you who once laid low the nations!
13 You said in your heart,
"I will ascend to heaven;
I will raise my throne
above the stars of God;
I will sit enthroned on the mount of assembly,
on the utmost heights of the sacred mountain.
14 I will ascend above the tops of the clouds;
I will make myself like the Most High."
We are told by the teachers of the New Age that we are “gods” not even tying to use the idea it is by being righteous, but just because we are. When you Awaken this is the knowledge you gain that you are “god” .
That is what all the self-empowerment mumbo-jumbo is about. The power is in you because you are “god”.
As they are teaching, if we all take a vow and live by it we will collectively transform the world because we are “gods”.
Warn all Christians you can against this lie of Lucifer.
Do not take this vow or the others that are to come.
I saw a comment from a girl who took the vow, who was exited that this meant no more abortions. It only will mean what the Occult leaders say it means. They state the greatest evil is being a separatist, believing in the God of Abraham. So what really is violence to them? Most likely it will be what of Barbara Marx Hubbard said, that Christians are a cancer on the earth, which must be removed.
Non-violence may have different meanings. We now know the Deepak Chopra says it means peace, but that a better definition is given by the Sanskrit word Ahimsa, which is ‘an active interaction with others and nature on the basis of the spiritual unity which connects us all.” “So nonviolence is not passive, but active in a nurturing way.” “Ahimsa describes behavior that respects and supports all who are involved.” “It assumes a universality the way that the greeting namaste recognizes that the divinity in others is the same as the divinity within us.”
What does that mean? What if you are not part of the “all who are involved”?
Wikipedia states that Ahimsa in Hindu scriptures and law books support the use of violence in self-defense against an armed attacker.[28] They make it clear that criminals are not protected by the rule of ahimsa.[29] They have no misgivings about the death penalty; their position is that evil-doers who deserve death should be killed, and that a king in particular is obliged to punish criminals and should not hesitate to kill them, even if they happen to be his own brothers and sons.[30]
So what happens if Christians make the list of evil doers? Actually we already have…their hate for Traditional Christians is frightening. They believe the only sin is being a separatist and not excepting your own godhood, which notion is anathema to the beliefs of Christians, Muslims and Jews. Where does this put us in the new laws that will be enforced?
Wikipedia states
“According to some interpretations, the concept of ahimsa as expounded in the scriptures and law books is not meant to imply pacifism; war is seen as a normal part of life and the natural duty of the warriors.[31] In the second chapter of the Bhagavad Gita Krishna refutes the pacifist ideas of Arjuna and uses various arguments to convince him that he must fight and kill in the impending battle. According to this interpretation of the scriptures, face-to-face combat is highly meritorious and fighters who die in battle go to heaven.[32]”
Who will they be fighting?
New Agers really don’t have an issue with killing. Nor do they think Hitler was evil.
This is a good article:
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CONVERSATIONS WITH GOD, Book 2
THERE IS NO EVIL
"Hitler went to heaven." (35)
"Because Hitler did nothing wrong. Hitler simply did what he did." (55)
"...The mistakes Hitler made did no harm or damage to those whose deaths he caused. Those souls were released from their earthly bondage. . . . No one who has experienced death ever mourns the death of anyone." (42)
"Hitler was created by you. He arose out of your Collective Consciousness.... The consciousness of separation, segregation, superiority – of 'we' versus 'they,' of 'us" and 'them' – is what creates the Hitler Experience. The consciousness of Divine Brotherhood, of unity, of Oneness, of 'ours,' not just 'yours/mine,' is what creates the Christ experience." (55)
ALL ARE CREATORS
"Everyone is creating everything now being experienced. . . for I am everyone. . . . There is only one of us." (68)
"God is the All, and the Goddess is everything, and there is nothing else that is;" (92
So if the Christian, Jews and Muslims are exterminated there is nothing wrong with it just like before…..
As you can see they twist meanings and definitions of words so this non-violence vow may be the very opposite of what it appears to be. As all other terms have change meanings under the occult don’t be surprised that it may be a different interpretation of it. It may be interpreted as eliminating those that are selfish separatists, that they deem violent, to save the rest of the truly non-violent people. In the writings of Alice Bailey in the name of peace she wants all the world’s nuclear weapons gathered and given to the UN to be used against any nations or religious groups that will not go along with their peace plan of one-world government and one-world religion.
It is Lucifer’s peace plan people are vowing to, not Jesus Christ our Savior’s. Remember when Christ comes again it will not be in peace. His robe will be dipped in blood. He will come as a warrior in battle to destroy the wicked of the world. Then his reign of peace will begin.
So what does this vow really mean? What is hidden, that they are not telling us upfront?
Beware of Lucifer coming as an Angel of light.
Prophecy has warned us to beware of Peace:
Daniel 8:25
25 And through his policy also he shall cause craft to prosper in his hand; and he shall magnify himself in his heart, and by peace shall destroy many: he shall also stand up against the Prince of princes; but he shall be broken without hand.
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Thessalonians Chapter 5:3
3 For when they shall say, Peace and safety; then sudden destruction cometh upon them, as travail upon a woman with child; and they shall not escape
Be Strong in Christ. Stand upon the Watchtower and Proclaim the Warning. Help Save Souls from this Luciferic movement.
God Bless You. God save those who believe in him, whom the Occult are planning to exterminate. God bless especially the True Believers of Jesus Christ.
Rose
My Experience with persons claiming to be Christian regarding Terry Schiavo
It is very sad to see how low the people of our country have descended into wickedness. I had a shocking revelation one day at work. I was out to lunch with co-workers including my boss and the owner of the company. We were discussing the Terry Schiavo case. All persons at the table claimed to be Christian. They were all on the side of Michael Schiavo. I was the lone advocate for her family. They attempted to use the analogy to me that she had no to right to live because if you put her in the middle of a desert she would not be able to get to food and water by herself; therefore she should not be alive and being feed via feeding tubes. I was stunned by this comment and said "If you put a baby or someone that needed a wheel chair in the middle of a desert are you saying they should die also?
They had no answer other then that was different. But the truth is it is the same. Denying someone food and water is murder. They are not dieing of natural causes. They are dying at the hands of those that should protect and assist them.
Latter in the conversation the owner of the company turned to me as I was taking a bite of food, he leaned over the table and pointed his finger at me and said “Rose if you choke on that bite of food I will do nothing to help you. I will call 911 but they won’t get her in time. YOU WILL DIE! You know why because they have changed the Good Samaritan laws and you or your family could sue me and I would lose my whole business”. I was so shocked I could not respond. I could not believe my ears. I think he was trying to intimidate me because of the points I had made earlier…But no matter it was one of the most shocking things I ever heard.
I thought about it a later and wished I had said what came to my mind at the time, but did not say it because it would have been a slap in the face to the owner of the company. What I wanted to say was “If you choke on the next bite of food that you take, I will do everything in my power to save your life even if I have the foreknowledge that I would loose everything because of it. Even knowing that you would not do it for me I would for you. I meant that. I would do that. I could not live with myself if I did not. I wish I had the confidence to say what came to my mind in that instant.
That is what I did for my mother everything I could possibly do to the point of physical, financial and emotional ruin. Because that is what you do if you love some as you love yourself as Christ has taught us.
These we very bad examples of Christians, I feel that it was a blessing that it was said to me and not to someone that did not have a solid relationship with Christ already, because it could have scared them away from Christ. I am afraid we will keep seeing more and more self-centeredness with in the Christian world as some start embracing the philosophies of the new age.
Rose
They had no answer other then that was different. But the truth is it is the same. Denying someone food and water is murder. They are not dieing of natural causes. They are dying at the hands of those that should protect and assist them.
Latter in the conversation the owner of the company turned to me as I was taking a bite of food, he leaned over the table and pointed his finger at me and said “Rose if you choke on that bite of food I will do nothing to help you. I will call 911 but they won’t get her in time. YOU WILL DIE! You know why because they have changed the Good Samaritan laws and you or your family could sue me and I would lose my whole business”. I was so shocked I could not respond. I could not believe my ears. I think he was trying to intimidate me because of the points I had made earlier…But no matter it was one of the most shocking things I ever heard.
I thought about it a later and wished I had said what came to my mind at the time, but did not say it because it would have been a slap in the face to the owner of the company. What I wanted to say was “If you choke on the next bite of food that you take, I will do everything in my power to save your life even if I have the foreknowledge that I would loose everything because of it. Even knowing that you would not do it for me I would for you. I meant that. I would do that. I could not live with myself if I did not. I wish I had the confidence to say what came to my mind in that instant.
That is what I did for my mother everything I could possibly do to the point of physical, financial and emotional ruin. Because that is what you do if you love some as you love yourself as Christ has taught us.
These we very bad examples of Christians, I feel that it was a blessing that it was said to me and not to someone that did not have a solid relationship with Christ already, because it could have scared them away from Christ. I am afraid we will keep seeing more and more self-centeredness with in the Christian world as some start embracing the philosophies of the new age.
Rose
A New Age Connection to Euthanasia
George J Felos Right-to–Die Attorney for Michael Schiavo's in the Terry Schiavo case. Micheal waged a seven-year successful battle to have his wife, Terri Schiavo disconnected from life support therefore ending her life. Terry Schiavo’s family begged to have her placed in there custody and unfortunately lost the case to Michael Schiavo and his Attorney. Terry died by court order.
Because of the Terry Schiavo Case I knew completely my mothers wishes. She and I had talked in great detail how horrible it was and how she was completely on the side of Terry’s family. I tried to emphases this to my mother’s doctor. It was very apparent he felt my mother and I were on the wrong side of the Terry Schiavo Case. He was pro Right-to-die. But I would say he was more Euthanasia forced-to-die.
Back during the time of Terry Schiavo’s case I did some research to see who the attorney was representing Michael Schiavo. As I researched him then and also later. I discover that he is a New Age Occultist. Which well known New Age leaders admire and give editorial reviews boasting of how wonderful he and his ideas are. He is a New Age Occultist that is influencing and changing the laws of the nation to the New Age Occult Agenda.
This is a direct quote from Amazon.com to purchase George J Felos book. Please read the reviews and notice the names and terms used of all of his editorial reviews especially notice what Neale Donald Walsh has to say about George J Felos.
Litigation As Spiritual Practice
by George J. Felos (Author)
Editorial Reviews
Review
"... George Felos offers a fascinating doorway into the inner and outer struggle of the Self." -- Sudhir Jonathan Foust, President Kripalu Center for Yoga and Health
"Here is a masterful blend of spiritual awareness and legal expertise ..." -- Alan Cohen, Author of Wisdom of the Heart
"This book could be called 'God in the Courtroom.'" -- Neale Donald Walsch, Author of Conversations with God
About the Author
Attorney George J. Felos is a nationally recognized expert in right-to-die cases. He has appeared on numerous television and radio programs including CBS's Early Show, CNN's Burden of Proof, Daybreak and Greenfield at Large, Court TV's Pros and Cons, Inside Edition, The Kathy Fountain Show, and NPR's All Things Considered.
Felos graduated from Boston University School of Law, was a founding member of the National Legal Advisors Committee on Choice in Dying, and served as Board Chair of the Hospice of the Florida Suncoast, the largest non-profit Hospice in the world. A classical pianist, yoga teacher, fisherman, and guest minister to various churches, Felos resides in Dunedin, Florida.
This another site his book can be purchase from and again look at the terms used and what Neale Donald Walsh has to say from link:
http://www.bluedolphinpublishing.com/Litigation.htm
Endorsements
"Here is a masterful blend of spiritual awareness and legal expertise. I am deeply impressed by George J. Felos' dedication to serving and bringing healing and well-being through the legal profession. I wish every lawyer would read this inspiring book, as well as those seeking to empower themselves in their personal lives. This is a breakthrough!" Alan Cohen, author of Wisdom of the Heart
"This book could be called 'God in the Courtroom.' It is a wonderful and amazing step on the path that our legal system must take if it is to truly heal and resolve the differences that arise between us. This book is a miracle. I am going to call George Felos God's Lawyer from now on." Neale Donald Walsch, author of Conversations with God
"Yoga philosophy draws heavily on the analogy of life as a battlefield between the ego and who we are beyond the ego. Telling the story of his real-life battles in the courtroom and reflecting on his inner journey into the practice of the perennial philosophies of yoga and meditation, George Felos offers a fascinating doorway into the inner and outer struggle of the Self." Sudhir Jonathan Foust, President, Kripalu Center for Yoga and Health
"At the heart of every conflict, no matter how severe, is a place of peace and stillness which, when accessed, provides true power and genuine healing. In this clearly written and heartfelt book, George J. Felos shows that when this stillness is intentionally accessed in the harsh practice of litigation, miracles happen. Books about spirituality are countless, but this one - fusing the spiritual with the rationality of a skilled attorney's mind - is extraordinary." Colin C. Tipping, author of Radical Forgiveness
"Simply a unique, brilliant accomplishment. Felos has woven into a most gripping, fascinating personal account, that had me as spellbound as the best novel, a splendid summary of the best of contemporary spiritual understanding and practice, while giving a fascinating insight into contemporary legal practice. I can't recommend it highly enough." Joseph Chilton Pearce, Author of Crack in the Cosmic Egg and Magical Child
As you can see he and his book come highly recommended by the Occultists. They are all connected and support each other on their mutual goals. They are starting to reveal themselves more and more.
Neale Donald Walsh refers to Felos as "God's Attorney"? The New Age Occult has a very different definition of God than Traditional Christianity.
They are very openly showing how connected they are and togehter hey are influencing and changing the every aspect of our society away from the one true God.
This is an interesting website I found regarding details in the case that are not well known. I can not say the information is accurate for I have not research this that deeply but I can say it is interesting and shocking.
http://www.sweetliberty.org/bulletins/terri/felos_hospice.htm
Because of the Terry Schiavo Case I knew completely my mothers wishes. She and I had talked in great detail how horrible it was and how she was completely on the side of Terry’s family. I tried to emphases this to my mother’s doctor. It was very apparent he felt my mother and I were on the wrong side of the Terry Schiavo Case. He was pro Right-to-die. But I would say he was more Euthanasia forced-to-die.
Back during the time of Terry Schiavo’s case I did some research to see who the attorney was representing Michael Schiavo. As I researched him then and also later. I discover that he is a New Age Occultist. Which well known New Age leaders admire and give editorial reviews boasting of how wonderful he and his ideas are. He is a New Age Occultist that is influencing and changing the laws of the nation to the New Age Occult Agenda.
This is a direct quote from Amazon.com to purchase George J Felos book. Please read the reviews and notice the names and terms used of all of his editorial reviews especially notice what Neale Donald Walsh has to say about George J Felos.
Litigation As Spiritual Practice
by George J. Felos (Author)
Editorial Reviews
Review
"... George Felos offers a fascinating doorway into the inner and outer struggle of the Self." -- Sudhir Jonathan Foust, President Kripalu Center for Yoga and Health
"Here is a masterful blend of spiritual awareness and legal expertise ..." -- Alan Cohen, Author of Wisdom of the Heart
"This book could be called 'God in the Courtroom.'" -- Neale Donald Walsch, Author of Conversations with God
About the Author
Attorney George J. Felos is a nationally recognized expert in right-to-die cases. He has appeared on numerous television and radio programs including CBS's Early Show, CNN's Burden of Proof, Daybreak and Greenfield at Large, Court TV's Pros and Cons, Inside Edition, The Kathy Fountain Show, and NPR's All Things Considered.
Felos graduated from Boston University School of Law, was a founding member of the National Legal Advisors Committee on Choice in Dying, and served as Board Chair of the Hospice of the Florida Suncoast, the largest non-profit Hospice in the world. A classical pianist, yoga teacher, fisherman, and guest minister to various churches, Felos resides in Dunedin, Florida.
This another site his book can be purchase from and again look at the terms used and what Neale Donald Walsh has to say from link:
http://www.bluedolphinpublishing.com/Litigation.htm
Endorsements
"Here is a masterful blend of spiritual awareness and legal expertise. I am deeply impressed by George J. Felos' dedication to serving and bringing healing and well-being through the legal profession. I wish every lawyer would read this inspiring book, as well as those seeking to empower themselves in their personal lives. This is a breakthrough!" Alan Cohen, author of Wisdom of the Heart
"This book could be called 'God in the Courtroom.' It is a wonderful and amazing step on the path that our legal system must take if it is to truly heal and resolve the differences that arise between us. This book is a miracle. I am going to call George Felos God's Lawyer from now on." Neale Donald Walsch, author of Conversations with God
"Yoga philosophy draws heavily on the analogy of life as a battlefield between the ego and who we are beyond the ego. Telling the story of his real-life battles in the courtroom and reflecting on his inner journey into the practice of the perennial philosophies of yoga and meditation, George Felos offers a fascinating doorway into the inner and outer struggle of the Self." Sudhir Jonathan Foust, President, Kripalu Center for Yoga and Health
"At the heart of every conflict, no matter how severe, is a place of peace and stillness which, when accessed, provides true power and genuine healing. In this clearly written and heartfelt book, George J. Felos shows that when this stillness is intentionally accessed in the harsh practice of litigation, miracles happen. Books about spirituality are countless, but this one - fusing the spiritual with the rationality of a skilled attorney's mind - is extraordinary." Colin C. Tipping, author of Radical Forgiveness
"Simply a unique, brilliant accomplishment. Felos has woven into a most gripping, fascinating personal account, that had me as spellbound as the best novel, a splendid summary of the best of contemporary spiritual understanding and practice, while giving a fascinating insight into contemporary legal practice. I can't recommend it highly enough." Joseph Chilton Pearce, Author of Crack in the Cosmic Egg and Magical Child
As you can see he and his book come highly recommended by the Occultists. They are all connected and support each other on their mutual goals. They are starting to reveal themselves more and more.
Neale Donald Walsh refers to Felos as "God's Attorney"? The New Age Occult has a very different definition of God than Traditional Christianity.
They are very openly showing how connected they are and togehter hey are influencing and changing the every aspect of our society away from the one true God.
This is an interesting website I found regarding details in the case that are not well known. I can not say the information is accurate for I have not research this that deeply but I can say it is interesting and shocking.
http://www.sweetliberty.org/bulletins/terri/felos_hospice.htm
Growing Tide of Euthanasia, My Personal Experience
My mother sadly passed recently. I learned some scary things regarding the medical world prior to her passing. I have lost total faith in the Medical field.
I do believe we are actually experiencing euthanasia becoming acceptable, encourage and forced.
Just over a year ago my mother was in her mid 70s. She had been living on her own and doing OK though she used 24 hour oxygen. She had a short stay in a hospital and was sent to a long term acute care facility for just some minor rehab. The things that happened to her there were horrendous. I have a long list but will edit it to some points that are relevant.
The doctor that ran the entire wing of the hospital was an arrogant internist who changed her lung specialist’s orders. He had an attitude of “so what if she dies, she is old”.It was appalling.
Things the Doctor did and did not do:
• She was not eating he did nothing to fix it, no orders for supplements like Ensure or feeding tubes - nothing.
• She had severe stomach pain that he just gave pain pills for. The pain turned out to be gallbladder stones and that was why she was not eating.
• He kept her insulin doses the same as if she was eating and she was crashing to the 30-50’s each day and he knew this and did not change the orders. (normal should be about 100. Seizures and death happen under 25.
• He caused a mangled toe by forcing her to wear wrong-sized tights. Her toe got infected and her lung specialist did not want her wearing the tights to begin with.
• Her oxygen levels were dipping into the 50-70% range on a constant basis. It should be above 90%.
All of this went on for a month, and the day they called and told me they were sending her to a nursing home I blew up and said there was no way, that they had not stabilized her and she could never survive. It truly felt like he was trying to kill her. I thought maybe I was just not seeing things right or he was an anomaly. But more was to come that made me realize this was a bigger than just this one doctor and his apparent “indifference”. I now think he was attempting to either have her die there or get her to the nursing home ASAP to die there, but it definitely was due to money. She was a Medicare/Medicaid patient and she was running out of Medicare money.
I called the original doctors’ group from the other hospital, told them what was happening and got a private ambulance to pick her up the same day she was to go to the nursing home. She arrived at the original hospital in critical condition! Her lung specialist was in shock. He said she was a different patient then the one he sent there. He could not believe what had happened.
Within a day of her being back at the original hospital her kidneys started to fail. She had gotten an infection from the other hospital that went septic. Her kidney specialist talked to her privately and kicked everyone out of the room and told her that they may be able to kill infection, but he was not positive he could get her kidneys fully functioning again. At that point he asked her if she wanted to have dialysis or not. She asked the doctor if she did not have dialysis if she would die. He said yes. She said she wanted to live. He then went into great detail how miserable it is to be on dialysis. My mother then argued with him defending that she wanted to live. She repeated back to him what he had said, that her kidney could start functioning and that she may not have to be on dialysis forever. She told him clearly that she was willing to be on dialysis for the rest of her life if she needed to be.
At this point he realized that he was not getting the answer he wanted. She wanted to live and he was not going to convince her otherwise, so he tried again from a different angle. He started telling her what a huge burden she would be on her children and how wrong that was of her, intensely pressuring her again to refuse dialysis. She argued again and said she wanted dialysis. He also started pressing her to sign a DNR form, which means “Do Not Resuscitate”. She refused that too.
Once the kidney specialist gave up trying to convince my mother, and then he decided to try to convince me. I was aware of my mother’s wishes, but unaware of the guilt complex he had laid on her. When I found out about that I was horrified. My mother was my best friend and was not burden to me. I loved the idea of her living with me even if I had to drive her to dialysis 3-4 times a week! How many Moms do that for their children just to go to soccer practice? He went through the whole explanation to me about how horrible dialysis is, etc. I again stated to him that we didn't know if this would be permanent. She could go off dialysis right? He had to agree. I stressed my mother’s wishes to go on dialysis even if it was permanent. He then started attacking me verbally and saying how cruel it was of me to do this to my mother laying on a thick guilt trip about how terrible I was, that I needed to do what was “right”. I told them I was only honoring her wishes and that I was not going to convinced her of something she did not want. He then had to put her on dialysis.
He got another doctor involved, who cornered me, and told me not to take on the burden of my mother, that I had a family of my own and should focus on them and not bring my mother home if she survives. They double-teamed me at the same time. The other doctor was just going on the information the kidney specialist had and his personal opinions on how people should just put the elderly in nursing homes.
We continued to have a daily argument about the DNR. Every time the kidney specialist would do his rounds he would harass my mother about signing a DNR and my mother got so upset over the issue I had to go to the social worker of the hospital and called an attorney. But no one could find a rule or law that would not allow him to ask her every time he saw her if she wanted to sign a DNR paper. She even filled out the living will that said she wanted to be resuscitated. My mother said she wanted every day to focus on getting better and not be re-asked what to do if she coded. She had already told them what to do!
Because my mother was septic she did get sicker and not able to fully communicate for herself. At this point the kidney specialist called a family meeting via a phone conference call. He had not gained any ground with convincing my mother or me so he decided to talk to all my siblings. He went through the whole thing again with them, how horrible dialysis was etc… Then he started saying that he thought my mother was too sick for dialysis and that it could kill her. He then announced to everyone that he was not going to allow dialysis anymore, that she was going to die in two days, and if they wanted to see her before she died they needed to fly in immediately.
We all argued with him saying could she still get over the sepsis, he said yes. Could her kidneys start functioning again on their own? He said yes. We begged for more time for the medicines to start working and to give her chance. He said no. My brother spoke up and said don’t doctors take an oath to do all they can do to sustain life? The doctor said he didn't have to do anything that he considered to be futile medicine. We asked how this was futile if he thought she could get better. He could not answer the question. He talked out of both sides of his mouth. On one hand he would say she was too sick for dialysis and other the other he would say she could get better. He stated well there's a possibility that she might need dialysis the rest of her life and or be in a nursing home and that's not a quality-of-life. He said “Therefore I refuse to give her any dialysis”.
I couldn't believe my ears. He was sentencing my mother to death based on his “personal” beliefs on quality of life. He gave us no alternative but to let her die. It was clear that he was arguing quality of life and not about her medical state she was in. He kept wiggling in his seat and twitching when asked questions that revealed this distinction. Luckily I had researched a bit on euthanasia and understood the growing view that anyone that was deemed unproductive in society should be euthanatized. I could see where he was coming from, so I told him we wanted a second opinion. He got extremely nasty and said ‘fine I will get one of my buddies and I know just who and he will tell you the same thing.
We got a second opinion, and it was in complete opposition to everything the first kidney specialist said. The new Specialist said there was no reason at all for her not to be on dialysis and that actually her numbers were doing pretty good so he was going to hold off a day and then start dialysis again. He said he thought he knew why her kidneys were failing. He felt strongly that he would be able to get them working on their own again. Needless to say I fired the first kidney specialist and hired the second one. I had already put a complaint in with the social worker in the hospital and had plans to life-flight my mother to a different hospital if I needed.
The new kidney specialist put her back on dialysis. She handled it perfectly. They got the sepsis under control, and she was off dialysis within two and a half weeks. My mother was shocked and angry when she got better and she found out her first doctor had giving her death sentence based on his “personal” opinions about her quality-of-life. My mother was thrilled to be alive, thrilled to have more time with family. She was able to get well enough and come home and live with me for short while. Every day she was still here with us was a miracle and a blessing, because if we had listened to it the personal opinions of that “Kevorkian” doctor and had not fought him, we would not have the extra time with her.
The next tragedy was that she was in the hospital’s in-house rehabilitation unit. She was doing fantastic and could walk over a hundred feet at a time with a walker. She was happy and had great plans for the future living with me. They released her a tad early because the benefits ran out. But at first I was not concerned about that because I could do the rehab at home. What I did not know was that during that last week in the rehab she had had a urinary track infection that they were giving antibiotics for and they kicked her out before it was cured. I went back over her white blood cell counts and they were clearly too high even on the day she was discharged and proved that she still had the infection at that time.
She came home and had a happy and wonderful week until she woke up with a fever over 100 and I had to call an ambulance. She had gone septic due to her early release and their discontinuing the antibiotics. Sadly she was not able to recover from this infection. She had sustained too many insults to her system due to the inept care she was given in both facilities because they were trying to save money. If they had done things right in the first place the costs would have been minimal and I would still have my mother here with me.
My mother was thankful for every day she had here. She had no regrets fighting to stay alive and I have no guilt since I strove to follow her wishes. I would not give up the many extra months and days I had with her for anything.
In conclusion it is my opinion there is a great movement out there to euthanize the elderly, to tell them they are a burden to their families and tell the families that they shouldn't take them in, to neglect them and hope they die of something that appears natural in nature.
What has our society turned into, when I had to fight for the right to have my mother live? I had to fight for the right to have her move in with me, so I could take care of her as she took care of me as a child. When did they start having the rights to tell people what our definition of a quality-of-life should be?
You must watch everything they do in the hospital. The head of all nursing for the entire IMC unit told me to keep a journal of every medicine, every detail, and research everything because that is the only way to keep a family member alive!
Unfortunately this was told to me after the damage to my mother was too far gone to save her, but I hope I can reach others to be aware that you must be the nurse and doctor and question everything. I caught so many things that would have killed her that there is not room enough to write them all.
I was there sometimes 24-7, literally every waking moment. I found her in a diabetic coma and demanded assistance when her blood sugar was at 27. I caught them giving her a medicine that lowered blood pressure when she was already going into low blood pressure. I had to get respiratory Therapy when she was losing consciousness due to lack of oxygen. Again and again I intervened and saved her life. She was terrified to be alone with the medical “professionals”.
Beware this will only get worse for multiple reasons.
1) If we have socialized health care the quality will go down, proof lies in all the countries with it. I have a friend that lives in Sweden that is a teacher; she broke her wrist years ago. She is in chronic pain especially when she writes on the chalk boards at school. The government says she does not have the type of job that deems a need for surgery on her wrist. If she was an athlete she could have the surgery.
2) The occultists are pushing for Euthanasia, for many reasons. They say it is kind and loving act. But I believe it is a quick and easy way to get rid of the God-fearing traditional values of the senior citizens that they still carry and influence others with.
Adolph Hitler said:“Your child belongs to us... What are you? You'll pass on. Your descendents, however, now stand in the new camp. In a short time they will know nothing else but this new community.” Speech, November 6, 1933, in the rise and fall of the Third Reich page 249
3) They want the money for other programs, not to spend it on the health of the “Faithful”, to slim down budgets and free up funds for their pet projects.
4) Because they know what is “best” for you. It is what is best for the collective, for the “whole”. You are not to be concerned for yourself, only for how you affect the world.
5) They will have literal control of life and death. If you do not take the initiations and take on the mark of the beast they will not give you any kind of health care. That will be a great incentive to take the mark.
6) Right now we are seeing laws on euthanasia in many countries like the Netherlands that keep getting broader and broader in scope. Their definition of a “quality of life” that deserves euthanasia keeps expanding to include retardation, depression and many defects and illnesses. Euthanasia is even carried out on behalf of those who “would wish it if they were in their right mind to decide for themselves.” Finally it will include the evil self-centered separates that do not believe they themselves are “god” and insist on hurting themselves and others by worshiping a false idea of the God of Abraham and Jesus Christ as their Savior. They will need to be euthanized so their souls can go to another dimension and learn and grow because they are holding the world’s evolution back and their own. They will assert that Christians, Jews and Muslims who refuse to convert are incurably mentally ill, so the new-world order must decide to euthanize them.
7) Soon “quality of life” will be defined as only the One World Religion followers. The world will be prepared step by step though all of the different kinds of Euthanasia to be brainwashed into feeling that this is perfectly natural and logical.
8) We no longer have respect for the lives of unborn children, the elderly and soon the religiously faithful.
There are many other possible reasons but I will stop here for now.
My mother was an amazing woman, genius IQ, loving and kind, a very deep intellectual. She was always a truth seeker. She believed in God and lived a very righteous life. I was very hard to have her go. She was my best friend.
The hospital ordeal lasted almost a year. I had to keep constant watch over her there. At the time and still am, I have been experiencing difficult health issues myself. 2008 was a very dark year for me. Losing my mother was the worst, my health and coming to the realization how far the Occults reach had come this far in the medical field really scared me.
Though all of this though it has put the fire underneath me to write on the subjects I have researched for over 25 years. So I feel something good has come out of it. I will not let my mother die in vain. I will write till I can not write anymore against the New Age Occult and Warn everyone I can what they are doing in all areas.
Beware of these things. Protect your loved ones the best you can. Warn others as much as possible so we can try to hold back this tide as long as possible.
God Bless
Rose
I do believe we are actually experiencing euthanasia becoming acceptable, encourage and forced.
Just over a year ago my mother was in her mid 70s. She had been living on her own and doing OK though she used 24 hour oxygen. She had a short stay in a hospital and was sent to a long term acute care facility for just some minor rehab. The things that happened to her there were horrendous. I have a long list but will edit it to some points that are relevant.
The doctor that ran the entire wing of the hospital was an arrogant internist who changed her lung specialist’s orders. He had an attitude of “so what if she dies, she is old”.It was appalling.
Things the Doctor did and did not do:
• She was not eating he did nothing to fix it, no orders for supplements like Ensure or feeding tubes - nothing.
• She had severe stomach pain that he just gave pain pills for. The pain turned out to be gallbladder stones and that was why she was not eating.
• He kept her insulin doses the same as if she was eating and she was crashing to the 30-50’s each day and he knew this and did not change the orders. (normal should be about 100. Seizures and death happen under 25.
• He caused a mangled toe by forcing her to wear wrong-sized tights. Her toe got infected and her lung specialist did not want her wearing the tights to begin with.
• Her oxygen levels were dipping into the 50-70% range on a constant basis. It should be above 90%.
All of this went on for a month, and the day they called and told me they were sending her to a nursing home I blew up and said there was no way, that they had not stabilized her and she could never survive. It truly felt like he was trying to kill her. I thought maybe I was just not seeing things right or he was an anomaly. But more was to come that made me realize this was a bigger than just this one doctor and his apparent “indifference”. I now think he was attempting to either have her die there or get her to the nursing home ASAP to die there, but it definitely was due to money. She was a Medicare/Medicaid patient and she was running out of Medicare money.
I called the original doctors’ group from the other hospital, told them what was happening and got a private ambulance to pick her up the same day she was to go to the nursing home. She arrived at the original hospital in critical condition! Her lung specialist was in shock. He said she was a different patient then the one he sent there. He could not believe what had happened.
Within a day of her being back at the original hospital her kidneys started to fail. She had gotten an infection from the other hospital that went septic. Her kidney specialist talked to her privately and kicked everyone out of the room and told her that they may be able to kill infection, but he was not positive he could get her kidneys fully functioning again. At that point he asked her if she wanted to have dialysis or not. She asked the doctor if she did not have dialysis if she would die. He said yes. She said she wanted to live. He then went into great detail how miserable it is to be on dialysis. My mother then argued with him defending that she wanted to live. She repeated back to him what he had said, that her kidney could start functioning and that she may not have to be on dialysis forever. She told him clearly that she was willing to be on dialysis for the rest of her life if she needed to be.
At this point he realized that he was not getting the answer he wanted. She wanted to live and he was not going to convince her otherwise, so he tried again from a different angle. He started telling her what a huge burden she would be on her children and how wrong that was of her, intensely pressuring her again to refuse dialysis. She argued again and said she wanted dialysis. He also started pressing her to sign a DNR form, which means “Do Not Resuscitate”. She refused that too.
Once the kidney specialist gave up trying to convince my mother, and then he decided to try to convince me. I was aware of my mother’s wishes, but unaware of the guilt complex he had laid on her. When I found out about that I was horrified. My mother was my best friend and was not burden to me. I loved the idea of her living with me even if I had to drive her to dialysis 3-4 times a week! How many Moms do that for their children just to go to soccer practice? He went through the whole explanation to me about how horrible dialysis is, etc. I again stated to him that we didn't know if this would be permanent. She could go off dialysis right? He had to agree. I stressed my mother’s wishes to go on dialysis even if it was permanent. He then started attacking me verbally and saying how cruel it was of me to do this to my mother laying on a thick guilt trip about how terrible I was, that I needed to do what was “right”. I told them I was only honoring her wishes and that I was not going to convinced her of something she did not want. He then had to put her on dialysis.
He got another doctor involved, who cornered me, and told me not to take on the burden of my mother, that I had a family of my own and should focus on them and not bring my mother home if she survives. They double-teamed me at the same time. The other doctor was just going on the information the kidney specialist had and his personal opinions on how people should just put the elderly in nursing homes.
We continued to have a daily argument about the DNR. Every time the kidney specialist would do his rounds he would harass my mother about signing a DNR and my mother got so upset over the issue I had to go to the social worker of the hospital and called an attorney. But no one could find a rule or law that would not allow him to ask her every time he saw her if she wanted to sign a DNR paper. She even filled out the living will that said she wanted to be resuscitated. My mother said she wanted every day to focus on getting better and not be re-asked what to do if she coded. She had already told them what to do!
Because my mother was septic she did get sicker and not able to fully communicate for herself. At this point the kidney specialist called a family meeting via a phone conference call. He had not gained any ground with convincing my mother or me so he decided to talk to all my siblings. He went through the whole thing again with them, how horrible dialysis was etc… Then he started saying that he thought my mother was too sick for dialysis and that it could kill her. He then announced to everyone that he was not going to allow dialysis anymore, that she was going to die in two days, and if they wanted to see her before she died they needed to fly in immediately.
We all argued with him saying could she still get over the sepsis, he said yes. Could her kidneys start functioning again on their own? He said yes. We begged for more time for the medicines to start working and to give her chance. He said no. My brother spoke up and said don’t doctors take an oath to do all they can do to sustain life? The doctor said he didn't have to do anything that he considered to be futile medicine. We asked how this was futile if he thought she could get better. He could not answer the question. He talked out of both sides of his mouth. On one hand he would say she was too sick for dialysis and other the other he would say she could get better. He stated well there's a possibility that she might need dialysis the rest of her life and or be in a nursing home and that's not a quality-of-life. He said “Therefore I refuse to give her any dialysis”.
I couldn't believe my ears. He was sentencing my mother to death based on his “personal” beliefs on quality of life. He gave us no alternative but to let her die. It was clear that he was arguing quality of life and not about her medical state she was in. He kept wiggling in his seat and twitching when asked questions that revealed this distinction. Luckily I had researched a bit on euthanasia and understood the growing view that anyone that was deemed unproductive in society should be euthanatized. I could see where he was coming from, so I told him we wanted a second opinion. He got extremely nasty and said ‘fine I will get one of my buddies and I know just who and he will tell you the same thing.
We got a second opinion, and it was in complete opposition to everything the first kidney specialist said. The new Specialist said there was no reason at all for her not to be on dialysis and that actually her numbers were doing pretty good so he was going to hold off a day and then start dialysis again. He said he thought he knew why her kidneys were failing. He felt strongly that he would be able to get them working on their own again. Needless to say I fired the first kidney specialist and hired the second one. I had already put a complaint in with the social worker in the hospital and had plans to life-flight my mother to a different hospital if I needed.
The new kidney specialist put her back on dialysis. She handled it perfectly. They got the sepsis under control, and she was off dialysis within two and a half weeks. My mother was shocked and angry when she got better and she found out her first doctor had giving her death sentence based on his “personal” opinions about her quality-of-life. My mother was thrilled to be alive, thrilled to have more time with family. She was able to get well enough and come home and live with me for short while. Every day she was still here with us was a miracle and a blessing, because if we had listened to it the personal opinions of that “Kevorkian” doctor and had not fought him, we would not have the extra time with her.
The next tragedy was that she was in the hospital’s in-house rehabilitation unit. She was doing fantastic and could walk over a hundred feet at a time with a walker. She was happy and had great plans for the future living with me. They released her a tad early because the benefits ran out. But at first I was not concerned about that because I could do the rehab at home. What I did not know was that during that last week in the rehab she had had a urinary track infection that they were giving antibiotics for and they kicked her out before it was cured. I went back over her white blood cell counts and they were clearly too high even on the day she was discharged and proved that she still had the infection at that time.
She came home and had a happy and wonderful week until she woke up with a fever over 100 and I had to call an ambulance. She had gone septic due to her early release and their discontinuing the antibiotics. Sadly she was not able to recover from this infection. She had sustained too many insults to her system due to the inept care she was given in both facilities because they were trying to save money. If they had done things right in the first place the costs would have been minimal and I would still have my mother here with me.
My mother was thankful for every day she had here. She had no regrets fighting to stay alive and I have no guilt since I strove to follow her wishes. I would not give up the many extra months and days I had with her for anything.
In conclusion it is my opinion there is a great movement out there to euthanize the elderly, to tell them they are a burden to their families and tell the families that they shouldn't take them in, to neglect them and hope they die of something that appears natural in nature.
What has our society turned into, when I had to fight for the right to have my mother live? I had to fight for the right to have her move in with me, so I could take care of her as she took care of me as a child. When did they start having the rights to tell people what our definition of a quality-of-life should be?
You must watch everything they do in the hospital. The head of all nursing for the entire IMC unit told me to keep a journal of every medicine, every detail, and research everything because that is the only way to keep a family member alive!
Unfortunately this was told to me after the damage to my mother was too far gone to save her, but I hope I can reach others to be aware that you must be the nurse and doctor and question everything. I caught so many things that would have killed her that there is not room enough to write them all.
I was there sometimes 24-7, literally every waking moment. I found her in a diabetic coma and demanded assistance when her blood sugar was at 27. I caught them giving her a medicine that lowered blood pressure when she was already going into low blood pressure. I had to get respiratory Therapy when she was losing consciousness due to lack of oxygen. Again and again I intervened and saved her life. She was terrified to be alone with the medical “professionals”.
Beware this will only get worse for multiple reasons.
1) If we have socialized health care the quality will go down, proof lies in all the countries with it. I have a friend that lives in Sweden that is a teacher; she broke her wrist years ago. She is in chronic pain especially when she writes on the chalk boards at school. The government says she does not have the type of job that deems a need for surgery on her wrist. If she was an athlete she could have the surgery.
2) The occultists are pushing for Euthanasia, for many reasons. They say it is kind and loving act. But I believe it is a quick and easy way to get rid of the God-fearing traditional values of the senior citizens that they still carry and influence others with.
Adolph Hitler said:“Your child belongs to us... What are you? You'll pass on. Your descendents, however, now stand in the new camp. In a short time they will know nothing else but this new community.” Speech, November 6, 1933, in the rise and fall of the Third Reich page 249
3) They want the money for other programs, not to spend it on the health of the “Faithful”, to slim down budgets and free up funds for their pet projects.
4) Because they know what is “best” for you. It is what is best for the collective, for the “whole”. You are not to be concerned for yourself, only for how you affect the world.
5) They will have literal control of life and death. If you do not take the initiations and take on the mark of the beast they will not give you any kind of health care. That will be a great incentive to take the mark.
6) Right now we are seeing laws on euthanasia in many countries like the Netherlands that keep getting broader and broader in scope. Their definition of a “quality of life” that deserves euthanasia keeps expanding to include retardation, depression and many defects and illnesses. Euthanasia is even carried out on behalf of those who “would wish it if they were in their right mind to decide for themselves.” Finally it will include the evil self-centered separates that do not believe they themselves are “god” and insist on hurting themselves and others by worshiping a false idea of the God of Abraham and Jesus Christ as their Savior. They will need to be euthanized so their souls can go to another dimension and learn and grow because they are holding the world’s evolution back and their own. They will assert that Christians, Jews and Muslims who refuse to convert are incurably mentally ill, so the new-world order must decide to euthanize them.
7) Soon “quality of life” will be defined as only the One World Religion followers. The world will be prepared step by step though all of the different kinds of Euthanasia to be brainwashed into feeling that this is perfectly natural and logical.
8) We no longer have respect for the lives of unborn children, the elderly and soon the religiously faithful.
There are many other possible reasons but I will stop here for now.
My mother was an amazing woman, genius IQ, loving and kind, a very deep intellectual. She was always a truth seeker. She believed in God and lived a very righteous life. I was very hard to have her go. She was my best friend.
The hospital ordeal lasted almost a year. I had to keep constant watch over her there. At the time and still am, I have been experiencing difficult health issues myself. 2008 was a very dark year for me. Losing my mother was the worst, my health and coming to the realization how far the Occults reach had come this far in the medical field really scared me.
Though all of this though it has put the fire underneath me to write on the subjects I have researched for over 25 years. So I feel something good has come out of it. I will not let my mother die in vain. I will write till I can not write anymore against the New Age Occult and Warn everyone I can what they are doing in all areas.
Beware of these things. Protect your loved ones the best you can. Warn others as much as possible so we can try to hold back this tide as long as possible.
God Bless
Rose
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